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u IntSMuhm this is a conversation between Mrs {NS} in Battleton Station and Miss {NS} the deputy archivist and {NS} the local historian uhm Mrs {NS} ((uhm)) would you tell us uh when you what you you were born in Newcastle you say you were born in Newcastle uh ((s))
u NblMNI was born in Newcastle
u IntSMcastle yeah
u NblMNmhm
u IntSMand you came here when you were about two did you
u NblMN((two)) I can't give you the date I can tell you how old I am now but I
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNyou know what I mean I
u IntSMhow old are you now (( ))
u IntASyeah
u NblMNI'm eighty year three
u IntSMeighty-three you're gettin' on mhm
u IntASso it'd be eighteen ninety then I suppose wouldn't it
u NblMNoh it'd be I ((think))
u IntASmm
u NblMNninety
u IntSMmm
u IntASeighteen ninety
u NblMNand uh I was born in Newcastle I can't tell even the place
u IntSMmm
u IntASbut you didn't live in
u NblMNme mother belonged Newcastle
u IntASoh
u NblMNand uh her father they were well off he was a shoemaker
u IntSMhuh
u NblMNhad his own business called him {NS} and uh my mother had a brother lived at Chattenton I don't know if you remember him {NS} had grocer shop
u IntSMyes grocer's shop oh yes I knew 'im yeah
u NblMNhad a grocer shop there that was my mother's brother
u IntSMthat was your that was your mother's yeah
u NblMNand uh I was just two year old I think when uh me mother come to Battleton Station
u IntSMmm
u NblMNfrom Newcastle
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNand I can always mm remember her tellin' a tale she came with some people they called 'em {NS} that's as far as I know she used to work for them well they took the ((Cluiton)) Arms at Battleton Station these people
u IntSMuh-huh mhm
u NblMNand they brought me mother me father died you see
u IntSMmm
u IntASah
u NblMNI can't even remember him 'cause I was a baby
u IntASmm
u NblMNbut the f- my mother used to work for them in Newcastle so they would fetch my mother with them here you see and I was the baby
u IntASmm
u IntSMmm
u NblMNI come here I've never been away from here
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMNand uh that's how we got to Battleton Station so went to school to Ba- +Battleton at Battleton Station then me mother had uh married again me father died in Newcastle you see
u IntASyes
u NblMNand uh me mother got married again and then I went to Battleton S- +Station Station school there
u IntASmhm
u IntSMmm
u NblMNdid all me school in there
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNand then ((my)) (( ))
u IntSMyour stepfather would be working at the pit was he
u NblMNpardon
u IntSMwas he working at the pit your stepfather did he work at the pit the man that your mother married did he work in the
u NblMNoh yes he worked in the pit
u IntSMah yeah
u NblMNyes he was a pitman
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMNthey called 'im {NS}
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNbut I never went by {NS} he always went by ((her)) name
u IntASmm
u IntSMmm
u NblMNthat was {NS}
u IntSMmm
u NblMNI was mother always fetched us ((up)) ((your)) name
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMNand uh after I left school of course I went to the brickyard
u IntASmm
u NblMNalong with other gals you know what I used to play with for some of them worked there an' and that's how I got there and I was never away
u IntSMyeah who was the schoolmaster when you were at the school Mrs {NS}
u NblMNnay no you're (( )) I cannot the only is I cannae remember the schoolmaster's name I can M- +Miss remember our M- +Miss Miss our mistress {NS}
u IntSMyes
u NblMNI think was headmistress in the infants
u IntSMyeah
u IntASmm
u NblMNI (('m)) forgettin' that {NS} was there
u IntASoh
u NblMNin their school
u IntSMmm yeah
u NblMNmaster and uh he lived in the schoolhouse
u IntSMof course that was that's r- +right
u NblMN{NS} that was his name
u IntSMhis name yeah
u IntASwhat was he like you remember him much or
u NblMNuh {NS}
u IntASmm
u NblMNoh was a smart fellow as far as I
u IntASyeah
u IntSMyoung ((lad))
u NblMNfellow can remember about him really
u IntSMyeah
u IntASyes
u IntSMcourse it was a colliery school
u NblMNaye just at the end there it's a library now
u IntSMaye it's a library now yes that was the colliery school and of course he would be employed by the uh
u NblMNit's a that's the school aye
u IntSMthe colliery
u NblMNah oh
u IntSMsee ((you see)) (( ))
u NblMNah that's the library it still stands there that was the school I went to
u IntSMyes ((still stand there)) yeah
u IntASmm
u IntSMaye
u NblMNit's still there but it's that's what it is now a library
u IntSMand in those days uh did you s- +school did you pay school board money or was it finished with (( ))
u NblMNyes had to have our twopence every Monday morning to go to school
u IntSMhad you mhm ((it's))
u NblMNand we had our books to buy
u IntSMuh-huh
u NblMNthen when we went to school
u IntSMyeah ((and for)) there you would
u NblMNf- they were you know just got copybooks
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNwe had to pay for them
u IntASpay for them all mm must have been difficult for some children wasn't it
u NblMNoh aye didn't have a good lot of money but things wasn't really dear like they are now you know
u IntASno
u IntSMno
u IntASno
u NblMNs- couldn't people wouldn't couldn't lived and they hadn't very much to me mother married again you see
u IntASmm
u NblMNand he worked at ((Barrington)) Pit the man she married
u IntSM((Barrington))
u NblMNcalled 'im {NS}
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNand he uh worked at ((Barrington)) Pit
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNwhere he was just a shifter he didn't make very much money either
u IntSMmm yeah mm
u NblMNbut we lived on it
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNhad to
u IntSMyeah uhm
u NblMNand uh I had uh I was one two I had two brothers and a sister two sisters uh by me me mother had four on ((we))
u IntSMuh uh-huh
u NblMNwhen she married this
u IntSMwhen she married him
u NblMNfellow
u IntSMmhm
u IntASmm
u IntSM((aye))
u NblMNI was the baby I was the youngest
u IntSMaye
u IntASyes
u IntSMwhere did you live then and uh Mrs {NS}
u NblMNwell we lived at the Bank Top
u IntSMdid you
u NblMNbut the houses is all pulled down
u IntSMaye
u NblMNand that's a collier- +colliery uh you know the like the council houses on
u IntSMaye
u NblMNthe Bank Top
u IntSMwhich uh which
u NblMNyou know where the Bank Top Hotel is
u IntSMyes aye
u NblMNin uh well we are all in council houses we were was the Tip used to be the Tip in them days
u IntSMyes aye
u NblMN'cause that's where we used to play
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNwhen we were kiddies and there was two stone halls and a wood row old houses well they are all pulled down now and that's it's a council estate
u IntSMyeah yes ah yes
u NblMNbut the last house we lived in still standing there and that's uh on the (( )) Terrace s- just from the Bank Top ((a deal))
u IntSMHoward Terrace
u NblMNHoward Terrace
u IntSMHoward Terrace yeah
u NblMNwe lived the third door from the bottom there
u IntSMoh yes that's
u NblMNthat's where uh
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNmy mother died you know
u IntSMaye
u IntASmm
u NblMNwhere I was married from we lived there
u IntSMthose woo- +wood
u NblMNmoved into one of these houses when they built them you see
u IntSMuh those w- +wood those old wood houses and stone houses uh they were (( ))
u NblMNah they were pulled all down you see there was the Wood Row
u IntSM(( )) aye yeah and the Stone Row as they've called it
u NblMNand Stone Row and Back Stone Row
u IntSMand Back Stone Row tho- +those those were all uhm houses belonging to the old ironworks
u NblMNthey would be likely but uh
u IntSMaye aye they had been built for the (( )) and the main
u NblMNironworks wasn't in my day
u IntSMyeah
u IntASmm
u NblMNthe ruins was still there mind
u IntSMwere they
u IntASwere they
u NblMNoh the ruins was there 'cause we used to play among the tunnels
u IntSMoh yeah
u IntASoh yes
u NblMNI can mind of playing in the ruins where the ironworks were
u IntASyes
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNand there was a big just about the size of this room and hadn't no top on
u IntSMmm
u NblMNjust the walls
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNI don't know what I think it was what they called the paper mill
u IntSMmhm oh I see aye
u IntASoh
u NblMNsomethin' 'bout that we used to play in there
u IntSMmhm
u IntASmm
u NblMN'cause the shells was there you see off the wars
u IntASoh ((con))
u IntSMmm
u NblMNbut uh and then down below was the ruins of the
u IntSMaye
u NblMNthe other places I can min- +mind o- +of mind of that
u IntSMyeah yes can you remember uh any of the other people that lived there at that time when you can you remember old Mrs {NS} for instance
u NblMNyes I can rem- +remember the {NS}
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNthey lived in the Wood Row
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNand they set it a fire
u IntSMthey did
u NblMNthe daughter set it on uh well she didn't deliberately set it on fire
u IntASmm
u NblMNbut uh she had been to the dance {CG} I think in there her dress had *getten catched fire you see and she wasn't bold I (( )) but she set the place on fire
u IntASmm
u NblMNand uh they built two houses in there there in brick and the rest was all wood I remember
u IntSMall wood yeah
u IntASoh
u NblMNit look funny
u IntSMyes it ((were))
u IntASyeah
u NblMNand that was the two that was burned out you see
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNbut that's none of that there now
u IntSMmhm
u NblMN'cause they are all council houses on that s- +site site
u IntSMmm aye I remember I can just remember the old wood houses in the the uh
u IntASyes
u NblMNyes the Wood Row
u IntSM((the Stone Row)) and the Wood Row and the Stone Row (( )) wood
u NblMNand the Stone Row and Back Stone Row
u IntSMyeah The uh I don't know where they belonged to ((has Mr)) {NS} anything to do with them
u NblMNno I no my mother used to pay the rent of uh at ((Keldom)) Blackburn was it he lived at Choppington
u IntSMoh yes I knew him
u NblMNfrom the Choppington Bank
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNBlackburn
u IntSMI knew him yeah
u NblMNthat was where our landlord
u IntSMwas it really
u NblMNI think he wouldn't have
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNthem houses
u IntSMyeah yes there were the
u NblMN((they were)) at Blackburn
u IntSMthere were (( )) of the ironworks have pulled out of the uh
u NblMNwell I cannae mi- +mind I cannae mind o' the ironworks I can just remember the ruins
u IntSM((steel)) oh no
u IntASmm
u IntSMyes yes
u IntASyes
u NblMNwe used to play in there
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMNin the ruins you know when we w' kiddies
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u IntSMyeah oh no they they they never worked ((for))
u NblMNin the ruins
u IntSMmany years before that yeah eighteen sixty-seven they had finished up
u IntASa long time before too
u IntSMyeah
u IntAShow old were you when you left school
u NblMNfourteen
u IntASfourteen and you went straight into the brickyard
u NblMNwent straight to the brickyard I left school on Sa- +Saturday on Friday
u IntASyes
u NblMNand I was uh fourteen on the Saturday and I went I didn't know what what to do I thought should have gone to Wood's Factory there was Wood's factory (( )) factory
u IntSMpulp factory
u NblMNpulp factories
u IntASmm
u NblMN((instead of at)) the brickyard why they used to say the gals coming home from the pulp factory soaking wet
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNyou know
u IntASmm
u NblMNI used to think oh I'm not going there now I didn't fancy that
u IntASmm
u NblMNso on a Monday mornin' I went (( )) I see if I can get on to brickyard I'd nae more idea than fly
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMN((to)) the brickyard but I went and uh I seed a gal's work and then they telled us ah there's the boss comin' around so I went I met up next to him for to get a job so he *axed us how old I was I says well I've just left school says I'm fourteen he says and do you think you could manage well I says I could try oh he says start at one o'clock says was on a Monday morning
u IntSMmm
u NblMNhe says oh come back and start at one
u IntSMhuh
u IntASgo tell
u NblMN((that's)) tied on soon as I left school 'n I were I was happy in there ((most of)) mm well not all the time but it was really my home that and the {NS} was good to me if they wanted anything done at the house it was me
u IntSM{NS} was the the boss of the place he was the owner
u NblMNpardon
u IntSMwas the owners of the brickyard
u NblMNyes they were the owners I was a kid
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNhe was the boss he was the owner
u IntSMyes
u NblMNbut he had brothers he had a {NS} he used to go about seekin' orders gentleman {NS} we used to call him
u IntSMmm
u NblMN{NS} that's what we used to call 'im
u IntSM(( )) ((the washer))
u NblMNand uh what's the matter
u IntSMwasher the washer
u NblMNoh the washer
u IntASyes
u NblMNI should think it's a ((name)) so uh never mind the {NS} was good to me and I wasn't always at the brickyard
u IntASmm
u NblMNif his mother was there at the old house at the house
u IntASmm
u NblMNI did I always was at the house to do any work for them and I used to go every week and wash
u IntSMmm
u NblMNfor them and when uh the daugh- +daughter c- I mind the {NS}
u IntASmm
u NblMNthe daughter the sister the boss's sister and his mother was an old woman you know he said about {NS} bein' bad 'n' could I go an' help the old woman ((well)) his mother ((well)) she was terrified I would take the scarlet fever
u IntASmm yeah that's
u NblMNyou know that's
u IntASyeah
u NblMNyes that's what {NS} had
u IntASmm
u NblMNI says I'm not takin' that I says I'll be alright brave as a lion
u IntASyes
u NblMNwell I didn't didn't take it (( ))
u IntASmm
u NblMNI was always sorry for the old woman and uh carrying the meals up I used to say give them to me and I'll climb the stairs with that she wouldn't at first but I was sorry for her and I helped her trail the stairs
u IntSMmm
u IntASyeah
u NblMN((at)) finish she gave in I never took a fever never took (( )) I used to go every Tuesday and do the washing and I used to go on a Friday and clean clean rooms for her
u IntSMmm
u NblMNI can always mind of a
u IntASmm
u NblMNwhen I oh there was a big ostrich egg in one of the cabinets when I was doing that would terrified and broke that ostrich egg {NS} had been in Africa you see {NS} that was the boss
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNthat was afore he came and took the brickyard he had been at Africa and he had fetched this t- ostrich home egg home you see
u IntASmm yeah
u NblMNand uh he they thought a lot of me though {NS} an' I was
u IntASmm
u NblMNalways there for to do the work
u IntSMmm
u NblMNand they could clean in times and I was just as much there as I was at the brickyard
u IntSMand ((what)) and what ((did))
u NblMNand I'd got the brickyard wage just to save money
u IntSMwhat what kind of wage had you for the work ((work))
u IntASah so
u NblMNhuh you'll never guess threepence an hour
u IntSMmm threepence an hour
u NblMNthat was two and threepence a day it used to come twelve and sixpence a week
u IntASand how long did you have to work for that what hours
u NblMNfrom half past six in the morning till five at night
u IntASmm ((gosh))
u NblMNif we stopped at six o'clock which sometimes we did of the
u IntASmm
u NblMNwere busy big orders come in for bricks
u IntASmm
u NblMNused to ha' to work till six o'clock but that was all on threepence
u IntSMmm
u NblMNoh they had poor wages then
u IntSMmm
u IntASand did you did you have a lunchtime break that sort of thing
u NblMNoh yes
u IntASyeah
u NblMNwe'd got a half an hour
u IntAShalf an hour just
u NblMNstopped at eight o'clock till half past eight for our breakfast used to start half past six
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMNyou know in the mornin'
u IntASyes
u NblMNand then we had an hour at dinner time from twelve to one
u IntASmm
u NblMNsometimes we used to work to six o'clock we didn't get any break for that
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNjust worked through to six
u IntSM(( ))
u IntASand did you work on Saturdays as well or d- +did
u IntSM((you worked))
u NblMNhalf day on a Saturday
u IntAShalf day on Saturday
u NblMNsometimes we worked to four o'clock if uh
u IntASif you were busy
u NblMNif we was busy
u IntSMyes
u NblMNif we had uh t- wanted bricks
u IntSMwhat uh what was your job uh what what kind of job was it that you that you had to do
u NblMNwell I set the bricks that was my job
u IntSMyou were a brick-setter is that right
u NblMNbut when I first went I had to wheel the barrows wheel the bricks to the s- ones that set them off you see
u IntSMmm
u NblMNbut uh 'cause there was a two gals for wheeling the barrows there was two to cutter you see the machine what cut the bricks just to come ((out)) today
u IntSMmm
u NblMNand they cut the length one was at this side cut the length shove it down to the cutter another girl turned the handle over hold the wires and
u IntSMmm
u NblMNcut the bricks
u IntASmm
u IntSMmm
u NblMNand then they had to lift them onto the barrows well there was four boards on a barrow used to be heavy you know
u IntSMmm
u NblMNwet clay and uh when I first went I used to wheel the barrows and then the I got on if there was a one of the setters off ((to)) set just help them out setting well I got the job settin' I was head setter
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMN'cause you see sometimes say this is the shape and this was the width of the shape where you would come half down that shape you see you'd to time that straight across
u IntASmm
u NblMNjust for it half down and then go back fill other half in you see we you you had to keep the straight line down there
u IntSMmm
u NblMNso I was at the top I was the one to keep the straight line
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u IntSMsettin' the settin' the bricks ((you was)) settin' this the clay bricks the soft clay under the
u NblMNit was soft clay yes and you had to be very careful
u IntSMaye (( )) were drying yeah
u NblMNor you had the hot flats
u IntSMyou had a hot a hot floor
u NblMNaye it was hot with steam underneath
u IntSMfor the the for the yes
u NblMNiron uh oh as thick as that iron plates
u IntSMiron plates yeah you lai- +laid you set them on there to dry them
u IntASmm
u NblMN((hot)) (( )) aye you sit set them on there to dry
u IntSMbefore they went to the kiln yeah
u NblMNand then there was men at the kiln used to
u IntSMyeah and did they wheel them out and then wheel them to the kiln
u NblMNaye the kiln men used to come and wheel them out into the kilns you see the ((up)) dried ones
u IntSMmm mm
u NblMNand we used to set the wet ones
u IntSMmm how long did it take 'em to dry the bricks after this they were set ((how long did it)) take them
u NblMNoh I can't tell you that really I can't tell you just to know what kiln would be your
u IntSMmm
u NblMNI couldn't tell you that bit
u IntSMtwo or three days
u NblMNoh could be about that
u IntSMyeah and then they dry them and put them into the kilns to be burned (( ))
u NblMNthey had to dry in the sheds you see and then the men used to wheel them out into the kiln
u IntSMmm yeah
u NblMNand they used to seal seal the kilns up
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNyou know there there were ((all)) kilns in
u IntSMuh-huh
u NblMNjust little like things but {NS} did away with them {NS} and he built one ((kiln)) it be continuous kiln
u IntSMyes
u NblMNthe heat left warm as soon as they were ready and went to the next compartment if there was always bricks ready you see
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNdid away with the old and I was t-
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNno fire
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNthe ol' kilns they had to fi- +fire uh shove in
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNyou could see the glare at night from the holes
u IntSMyeah yeah
u NblMNwhere the men firing but these ones the new kiln they filled they fed them from the top
u IntSMtop aye mm (( ))
u NblMNbut I no was never up on the top like but that's where they f- +fired
u IntSMyeah yeah (( ))
u NblMNthey fired it from the top
u IntSMuhm
u NblMNso they'll be still there yet likely
u IntSMyes
u NblMNcan still be there I don't know what there's in at all
u IntSMyes they're still there yet uh still there yet mm
u NblMNof ((the f-))
u IntSMof course ((they)) (( ))
u NblMNmachinery there
u IntSM(( )) ((often kiln don't know)) uhm and what kind of wages had the men that worked in there
u NblMNme I can't tell you for them
u IntSMwere they on piece work
u NblMNthe kiln men
u IntSMaye
u NblMNwas on piece work
u IntSMmm
u NblMNthat's all I know but what the wages they got I couldn't tell you
u IntSMmm
u IntASwere were there many men were there more men than women working there or more women or
u NblMNoh I don't -- I used to wouldn't be more men than women there used to be six women
u IntASyeah six women mm
u NblMNand huh well there would be a few more there used would be four kiln men anyway an'
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMN((one would)) (( )) with the barrows and loading the fillin' the kilns up
u IntSMand ((there were kiln men))
u NblMNwith the dried bricks you see
u IntSMthe dried bricks mm
u IntASmm
u NblMNand then there'd be four on the clay hole
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMNand well when I first went we used to dig the clay
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNin in the clay hole with a used to have a foot iron
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNyou know iron used to fit on a foot and ((lase)) up the front to save the feet you see
u IntASyes
u NblMNon the spade now it was when I first went know {NS} got an excavator after that
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNproper digger
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNused to dig the clay you know they put my man on that and uh 'cause he my man worked the machinery in the what made the bricks
u IntSMoh I see
u IntASah
u NblMNyou see he used to fire the *boilecs
u IntSMmm
u NblMNtwo boilers to keep the steam up to run that machine
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNan' that's what my man did you see well when they got this excavator down the clay hole they put him on it put my man on it and uh he was on there the rest of the time
u IntSMwith steam uh that a big steam shovel wasn't it
u NblMNso pardon
u IntSMwas like a big steam shovel
u NblMNoh aye
u IntSM(( ))
u NblMNyes used to swoop
u IntASmm
u IntSMyes yes (( ))
u NblMNand it just tipped into the buggies you see
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm it would be much quicker wouldn't it when the men digging
u NblMNoh better the men
u IntASyeah
u NblMNwhen they had the four men diggin'
u IntASmm
u NblMNyou know and they used to have their foot-irons on it was all
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNfeet work
u IntSMyeah
u IntASmm
u NblMNand then they used to ((had to)) shove it down into the buggies
u IntSMyeah
u IntASmm
u NblMNand then they pulled the buggies along you see with a pony
u IntSMuh-huh
u NblMNhad a pony but after they got the excavator ((uh well yeah)) I think the ponies the ponies still pulled it to the bottom of the
u IntSMaye (( ))
u NblMNthe bank
u IntSMyes
u NblMNand they had to come away took the bank to the middle top
u IntASmm
u IntSMmm
u NblMNnearly the height of this house right up the bank
u IntSM((coming up)) (( )) clay (( ))
u NblMNthey pulled it up by uh
u IntSMand ((up)) and ((up to the)) top of the mill
u NblMNelectricity you see
u IntASmm
u IntSMyeah yeah yeah
u NblMNaye
u IntSMuhm
u NblMNts-
u IntSMthe {NS} were were the ((Field)) Brothers uhm partners in that was that in that business ((Field)) Brothers ((of them)) partners in that business i' {NS} or was it just the one had it the brickyard
u NblMNone lavatory
u IntSMwhat no {NS}
u NblMNoh {NS} oh there was uh 'bout three b- +brothers four brothers on them
u IntSMwas there
u NblMNbut there was only two had to do with the business
u IntSMmm
u NblMNthat was {NS}
u IntSMmm
u NblMNnow he was our boss we called him the boss and there was {NS} we used to call him {NS} he was the gentleman he used to seek orders
u IntSMyeah oh I see
u NblMNcouldn't do any work to seek the orders in you see
u IntSMmm (( )) aye
u NblMNtravelling
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNbut {NS} was always knocking about
u IntSMyes aye (( ))
u NblMNso {NS} was our boss
u IntSMmm
u IntASmm
u NblMNthen there was ol' {NS}
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNwell he didn't do much he just looked after the horses and the stable as they had uh that horse and carts you know they used to had to
u IntSMmm
u NblMNload an' fetch the coals in from the colliery
u IntSMoh yes
u NblMNyou see with the horse and cart to feed the boiler
u IntSMmhm mm
u NblMNsh- feed the boilers keep the boilers going
u IntSM(( )) for the kilns as well and to burn the bricks as well
u NblMNmm
u IntSMand to burn the bricks as well oh they burned them
u NblMNyes that they ((burn)) (( )) for that you know they used to have a
u IntSMyes and they were burning the coals for that as well yeah
u NblMNday shift men and night shift men for that
u IntSMyeah yeah yeah
u NblMNbut when he built the big kiln you see
u IntSMmm
u NblMNit was easier
u IntSMmm
u NblMN'cause uh it held more bricks and made more bricks
u IntSMmm
u NblMNand then it was easier for the men as well
u IntSMyeah the the uhm the men that were actually the brick burners uhm th- +they they would have to start from uh the uh s- +sort sort of served a time to that wouldn't they brick burning they would start as lads in the brickyard and then they worked their way up as brick burners after that didn't they
u NblMNoh I should think so oh one would learn the other
u IntSMyes ((yeah)) yeah was a ((skill job))
u NblMNas far as I understand aye
u IntSMnow that was a ((skill job)) on the bricks mm
u NblMNyes
u IntSMyeah
u IntAS'd how long did you work in the brickyard
u NblMNI worked there till I was married
u IntASah
u NblMNwell not exactly I did leave I was left twice I was at ((Solverson)) Newcastle ((Wescot)) Road
u IntASmm
u NblMNuh at a dentist's I was up there and then uh I was left after that stopped at home a bit but I always worked ((was all)) back to the brickyard somehow
u IntASmm you preferred it to the other jobs did you
u NblMNaye I liked it
u IntASyes
u NblMNI think it was with being among the other girls you see
u IntASyes
u IntSMmm
u IntASpeople to talk to and so on
u NblMNmm there was six on we you know two setters two at the barrows and two at the machine
u IntSMyeah had your husband very big wages had a little bit extra for work on that excavator had he
u NblMNoh he uh he had a good wage my man couldn't grumble about his wage
u IntSMmm mm mm because it it was a bit better than working at the pits 'cause the pits used to work badly at times and
u NblMNhe worked at Ashington Pit
u IntSMdid he
u NblMNhe was working at Ashington Pit when he retired
u IntSMmhm
u IntAShow did you like being in service what was that like with the dentist
u NblMNoh I didn't like it at all
u IntASdidn't like it
u NblMNhuh
u IntASwas it the people or just the work you didn't like
u NblMNoh the people was alright
u IntASyeah
u NblMNbut uh ye your own boss when you're at the brickyard ((so I could be))
u IntASah {LG}
u IntSMmm
u NblMNyou know
u IntASyes what did you have to do for the dentist
u NblMNoh just housework
u IntASuh-huh
u NblMNnothing to do with the dentist
u IntASyou didn't have to cook no
u NblMNpardon
u IntASyeah did you have to cook or anything or were you
u NblMNoh no
u IntASmm
u NblMNjust uh the daughter used to see to the cookin'
u IntASoh yes
u NblMNand I still had only white caps on you know white aprons for the
u IntASdid you
u NblMNget the house and them would come s- +see to seek the dentist you see I used to had to answer the door
u IntASyeah
u NblMNand I had to be ((go see)) him ((on at)) the top
u IntASyeah
u NblMNwhen the bell rung that was off
u IntASmhm
u NblMNused to have a posh ((do)) at the front door {LG} I show 'em into the room now I'd still didn't like it you know
u IntASno
u NblMNno you still hadn't your own freedom like
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNwhen you're at home and workin' at the brickyard you see
u IntASno mm
u NblMNwell you have finished you please yourself what you did
u IntSMyeah
u IntASyeah
u IntSMwhen you wo- +worked
u NblMNwhen you're in service aye you just got your night out
u IntSMyeah
u IntASmm mm
u IntSMw- +when when you were at the brickyard you y- +you did you wear clogs or did you wear heavy boots or
u NblMNthey had clogs
u IntSMhad they
u NblMNbut you had to have strong boots I can always mind
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNwhen I started I had to went with a pair of thin shoes on and the gals had clogs then and overall strong shoes so I can mind when I first started the engine that was my husband he used to drive the engine he came along ((around)) breakfast one mornin' I think it was the second mornin' I was there he come like big soft lad he had somethin' behind his back he's puts 'em down in front of me he says see if they may fit you I can still mind of it why the scoff he got poor soul all the other lasses were sayin' oh us never did that for us never fetched any for us
u IntASoh they were jealous
u NblMNyes he should just ((hard it)) poor soul he got some stick about that you see
u IntASmm
u NblMNput the clogs down for us you see is there any more he fetched my friend went to the office and so p- he says there isn't another pair he says that's the only pair there is and *perhap they fit us so I got the clogs
u IntASmm
u NblMNbut uh I didn't wear them long I didn't like the clogs
u IntASmm
u IntSMyeah
u NblMN((used to have)) good stout shoes on mind because of you see the flats was hot
u IntSMyeah
u IntASmm
u IntSM(( ))
u NblMN'cause sometimes they were extra hot
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNif they were makin' bricks
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNand uh
u IntSM((very hot))
u NblMNyou used to burn your feet if you hadn't a good pair of shoes on you know
u IntASmm
u NblMN'cause you see they had to be hot
u IntSM(( ))
u NblMNdry the bricks
u IntASto dry the bricks yes
u IntSMclogs would be ideal for the job because ((they))
u NblMNyes that was the idea
u IntSM'cause they had a they had a thick wood sole
u NblMNclogs
u IntSMclogs would be s- ideal for that job
u NblMNyou get used with them you see
u IntSM(( )) yes and you'd have to have a course apron on
u NblMNoh yeah they have a course apron 'cause you left that took it off 'cause it used to get oily ((you)) from there and it was smelly oil
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNgas oil they called it
u IntASmm
u IntSM((it was)) gas oil yes
u NblMNgas oil tha- +that that's what gave you the smell of the brickyard
u IntASmm
u NblMNthe gas oil but we had a course apron you see used to put it on ((you know))
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNwe left it at the brickyard just took it home the weekends to get washed
u IntSMdid you have to provide your own you had to provide your own uh
u NblMNoh yes
u IntSMmm
u NblMNprovide our own
u IntSMmm with your threepence an hour
u NblMNthreepence and hour two and threepence a day we worked for like steam coals
u IntSMstill at this ((yeah))
u NblMNaye we had a lot of work to do
u IntSMmhm hard work as well
u NblMNyes hard work
u IntASmm
u IntSMyes
u NblMNbecause uh you had there was a (( )) you had to have well I didn't wheel the barrows very long
u IntASmm
u NblMNwell the four was going to quit on the barrows to wheel them to the setters you see
u IntASmm
u NblMNbut I never got to even to the cutter 'cause I was put on the setters straight away
u IntASmm
u NblMNwas two gals at this (( )) you see settin' and then two gals wheelin' the barrows to them and then two to cut at one each end the bricks that's how we worked
u IntSMmm
u NblMNbut I was always mostly at the settin'
u IntASyes what jobs did your brothers and sisters do
u NblMNjobs
u IntASyes were were they in did they go into the brickyard at all or were they doing other things your brothers and sisters
u NblMNoh I liked the brickyard the best we had more freedom you see
u IntASyeah mhm
u IntSMuh did your brothers and sisters work at the brickyard had anybody else
u NblMNno
u IntSMjust yourself
u IntASwhere did they work
u NblMNme sisters
u IntASmm
u NblMNcan't mind of them working them were married weren't they
u IntASoh I see {LG}
u NblMNyes I was the youngest
u IntASyes
u NblMNyou know
u IntASand how about your brothers were they down the pit or
u NblMNuh no me brother went to the
u IntASno
u NblMNhe yes he did work at the old pit a bit
u IntASmm
u NblMNbut eh he was mostly at sea he used to like to go to sea
u IntASoh mm
u NblMNhe used to go away on a merchant boats
u IntASmm
u NblMNto sea and then me youngest brother he was at the pit youngest one I'm the only one left nobody there but me
u IntSMnow anybody who was left a widow in those days like your mother was did they have a hard job bring your family up
u NblMNoh aye well I I married uh my man he was he wasn't hard up you know he was off a good family you know good saver he wasn't he never drank a lot anything like that wouldn't spend a penny if a halfpenny would do was one of them sort
u IntSMmhm
u IntASmm mm
u NblMNand we never wanted for anything he well fe- +fetched uh fetched my family up alright
u IntSMmm but your mother your mother would have a hard job left with you
u NblMNmy mother had a hard life of yes my mother had a hard life
u IntSM(( )) job ((on)) (( )) yeah
u NblMNbut uh we bought our own house in Bridge Terrace
u IntSMyes you did
u NblMN((house)) but them uh that other mansions was a brother were two brothers they fell out at stone to Bridge Terrace lived at Choppington
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNwhen we bought that house in Bridge Terrace
u IntSMmhm
u NblMN(( )) and (( )) ((Jim)) (( )) they were two brothers
u IntSMmm yeah
u NblMNand there were new houses there and {NS} just built them
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNif anybody if you wanted a house he built it but he built two
u IntSMmm
u NblMNhe always built two
u IntSMyes
u NblMNyou see the one was ordered and then the other one was for sale
u IntSMmhm
u NblMNand I can mind uh how we got to Bridge Terrace lived at Choppington all the time when we left to get married 'cause we lived in his mother's property in Holme's Buildings still be there likely and there oh dear me it was just two rooms and then I was havin' a family and we shifted
u IntASmhm
u NblMNinto his brother's property Sunnyside House just as you go along to the schools there's a house stands there
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNdid you know {NS} at Choppington the butcher
u IntSMyes aye
u NblMNaye we live next door to them
u IntSMstore butcher
u NblMNaye and uh they have all gone now I think snack it just push it you hear the washer can you you haven't snacked (( )) and uh where was I up to oh aye you looked when we come to Choppington Station uh Battleton Station we lived up there
u IntASmhm
u NblMN'side the schools just as you go round the schools Choppington so uh oh I was tired of Choppington 'cause there was a (( )) house frightened with the black clogs they all had black clogs at the house
u IntASmm
u NblMNyou know
u IntASmm
u NblMNand uh I says oh dear me I says can we not get out can you not be at buzz that was the brickyard boss
u IntASyes
u NblMNand he built all them houses along there you know
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNand he never offered any to t- +to to my man or {NS} that was the {NS} what you would
u IntSMmm
u NblMNand them was the two what needed them
u IntSMmm
u NblMNbut he thought well the {NS} had property at Choppington you see
u IntSMmm
u NblMNand they would they had had the idea that they wouldn't want to come away from there that's why {NS} never offered ((were)) a house you see because buzz built all them villa things on (( )) to Bridge Terrace I (( ))
u IntSMyeah mm yeah
u NblMNwell buzz built them uh ones what's built with two houses down there
u IntSM((I feel)) that's how ((he set them))
u NblMNand {NS} built uh Bridge Terrace
u IntSMTerrace yeah
u NblMNwell anyway we went to thirty Bridge Terrace and then when we decided to have it {NS} thought he would uh axe buzz that was the boss's brother
u IntSMmm
u NblMNto have a look at it to see if it was worth the money they were axing for it so uh both {NS} says well didn't think you wanted to come to live to Battleton Station why didn't you tell ((we))
u IntSMmhm
u NblMN'cause we knew it buzz was lettin' houses you know was buzz had them ((them)) villas
u IntSMmm
u NblMNbut no half that wanted {NS}
u IntASmm
u IntSMmm
u NblMNso never mind we were just down there 'bout a year when buzz decided he would buy one there so if {NS} bought got an order for one he built two you see
u IntSMmm
u NblMNso uh buzz ordered a one after we shifted down there
u IntSMmm
u NblMNthat's them who was at forty-six
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNand uh that's how we got a house at Battleton Station mind
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNwe had been there ever since
u IntASah
u NblMNlike down there
u IntASmm
u NblMNit was nice
u IntSMyeah
u IntASmm
u NblMNof course the that factory wasn't there then you know
u IntSMmm
u NblMNthere wasn't any factory there
u IntSMno there wasn't any more then mhm
u NblMNit was all green fields when we went there
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNit's not so good down there now
u IntSMmm
u NblMNit's a lot of traffic buzz
u IntSMis a Geordie name for {NS}
u IntASoh is it
u IntSMyes it's another way of saying {NS} {NS} is a Geordie name
u NblMNaye are you puttin' everything on there
u IntASmm
u NblMNwhat I'm sayin'
u IntASyes yes
u NblMNhee bad luck am I not talking polite
u IntASyes you are good heavens
u IntSM((very))
u NblMN((very)) you've uh
u IntSMwhat about the uhm uh the brickyard they'd employ quite a lot of men then down there like you know they found quite a lot of employment for men that brickyard there uhm were there were there when the {NS} finished with it were you there when {NS} finished with it
u NblMNuhm no I think I was left afore that
u IntSMmm
u NblMN'fore {NS}
u IntSMmm
u NblMNfinished with it
u IntASwhy did he finish with it was it not paying or
u IntSMI think he retired from it
u IntASoh did he
u NblMNhe retired on gettin' old you know
u IntSMyes yes
u IntASoh I see
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNI couldn't tell you why they finished with it
u IntASdid they have no children who would carry on with it or
u NblMN{NS} wasn't married ((when he retired))
u IntASdidn't mm oh he wasn't married oh
u NblMN{NS} he was never oh yes he did
u IntASno
u NblMNyes he was he was married to {NS} she was a school teacher
u IntSMmm yes
u NblMNshe lived in (( )) there
u IntSMyeah
u IntASmm
u NblMNthat's who buzz married late in life like
u IntASoh did he yes
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNno family
u IntASno
u IntSMhe used to an older lady used to go about with two little dogs wa- +was was she related to them was she {NS}
u NblMNthat was uh ah that was Mrs {NS} sister {NS}
u IntSMwas it
u NblMNand uh she uh {NS}
u IntSMmm
u NblMNcalled that one with the one with the dogs {NS}
u IntSMmm aye
u NblMNan' {NS} was a school teacher you know what
u IntSMyeah
u NblMN{NS} married {NS} married she was a school teacher
u IntSMyeah yes
u NblMNChoppington School
u IntSMmm
u NblMNI used to go and wash for her ((and all))
u IntASmm
u NblMNon washing days I went washed for her
u IntSMyou do the family wash
u NblMNmm
u IntSMyou get about two and (( ))
u NblMNonce a week I just got me wage at the brickyard just the same
u IntSMyou did mm very nice
u NblMNbut {NS} 's uh mother was a canny old sort every night when {NS} was bad once she had the some sort of fever uh was scarlet fever it wasn't very severe you know scarlet fever wasn't no oh and I used to be his mother was old you know (( )) I used to be sorry for her ((between)) the stairs I used to say let me take that up (( )) but of course I f- +frightened frightened I would get it you see so d- I was determined I wouldn't take it so I got the job and I took it up I never took the fever
u IntASmm
u NblMNI never took it and saved two legs she was canny and I used to get sixpence every night off her for to come to pictures
u IntASoh
u NblMNand I and I wasn't at the brickyard I was stoppin' there
u IntASshe must have been nice
u IntSMyeah the uh
u NblMNaye they were good to me the {NS}
u IntSMcause there was a lot of plagues and epidemics in those days though and you know yeah yeah
u NblMNoh yes
u IntSMscarlet fever and there was m- +measles meas-+measles measles and
u NblMNuh ah yes aye you never get any of them now do you
u IntSMuh diphthe- +diphtheria no and diphtheria and uh these they put the boards out outside the houses
u NblMNmhm aye and I ((never)) had scarlet fever should
u IntSMwith a big D on for diphtheria and a S for a big great big S on a house and you had to hang these outside the doors
u IntASyou sure really
u IntSMyes
u NblMNaye
u IntSMepidemic and that meant that you hadn't to go in no way to go in there but the doctor
u IntASmm
u NblMNaye
u IntSMbut uhm there was always a lot of epidemics in the yeah
u NblMNand the boss uh he was
u IntSM((fever))
u NblMNa lot o' years in Africa I think
u IntASmm
u NblMN'cause I can always mind when I was doin' the room
u IntASmm
u NblMNthey had a big there was a big ostrich egg and the old woman was always frightened I would drop that egg when I was dustin'
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNbecause it {LG} it was {NS} from Africa
u IntSMmm
u NblMNand I always mind of that
u IntAShow was the brickyard affected in the war did all the did all men have to go off to the war in the First World War
u NblMNyes if uh if they were at age
u IntASmhm did your husband have to go
u NblMNno
u IntASm
u NblMNbut he didn't pass
u IntASoh I see you were lucky weren't you
u NblMNhe had to go through his exams just the same but he didn't pass
u IntASmm
u IntSMmedical medical exam yeah
u IntASmm yes
u NblMNno he didn't pass
u IntSMyeah
u IntASah
u IntSMand of course during the last war there was an aeroplane dropped on it on the brickyard a German plane
u NblMNb- aye yes we were living in Bridge Terrace then
u IntSMyes dropped on the uh brickyard right in plonked in the middle of the drying sheds
u IntASmm it did
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNeh
u IntASthat was before it closed
u IntSMyes
u IntAS(( ))
u IntSMduring the last war
u NblMNyes I can mind that night
u IntASmm
u NblMNby the sheds you know the steel floors
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNwas as thick as that table
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNsteel
u IntASmm
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNand it was always red hot and that (( )) being thick on that but the aeroplane went right through that flew
u IntSMflow right
u NblMNnearly uh ((with the way they turned)) was yards and yards under the earth
u IntASmm
u IntSMyes
u NblMNthrough that steel them steel plates
u IntSMyeah
u NblMNhad a job gettin' their men out
u IntSMand then there was ((all about)) four Germans here wasn't there
u NblMNyeah I can mind tha'

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