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interviewerAuhm this is a conversation between Mrs {NS} in Battleton Station and Miss {NS} the deputy archivist and {NS} the local historian uhm Mrs {NS} ((uhm)) would you tell us uh when you what you you were born in Newcastle you say you were born in Newcastle uh ((s))
speakerI was born in Newcastle
interviewerAcastle yeah
speakermhm
interviewerAand you came here when you were about two did you
speaker((two)) I can't give you the date I can tell you how old I am now but I
interviewerAyeah
speakeryou know what I mean I
interviewerAhow old are you now (( ))
interviewerByeah
speakerI'm eighty year three
interviewerAeighty-three you're gettin' on mhm
interviewerBso it'd be eighteen ninety then I suppose wouldn't it
speakeroh it'd be I ((think))
interviewerBmm
speakerninety
interviewerAmm
interviewerBeighteen ninety
speakerand uh I was born in Newcastle I can't tell even the place
interviewerAmm
interviewerBbut you didn't live in
speakerme mother belonged Newcastle
interviewerBoh
speakerand uh her father they were well off he was a shoemaker
interviewerAhuh
speakerhad his own business called him {NS} and uh my mother had a brother lived at Chattenton I don't know if you remember him {NS} had grocer shop
interviewerAyes grocer's shop oh yes I knew 'im yeah
speakerhad a grocer shop there that was my mother's brother
interviewerAthat was your that was your mother's yeah
speakerand uh I was just two year old I think when uh me mother come to Battleton Station
interviewerAmm
speakerfrom Newcastle
interviewerAmhm
speakerand I can always mm remember her tellin' a tale she came with some people they called 'em {NS} that's as far as I know she used to work for them well they took the ((Cluiton)) Arms at Battleton Station these people
interviewerAuh-huh mhm
speakerand they brought me mother me father died you see
interviewerAmm
interviewerBah
speakerI can't even remember him 'cause I was a baby
interviewerBmm
speakerbut the f- my mother used to work for them in Newcastle so they would fetch my mother with them here you see and I was the baby
interviewerBmm
interviewerAmm
speakerI come here I've never been away from here
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speakerand uh that's how we got to Battleton Station so went to school to Ba- +Battleton at Battleton Station then me mother had uh married again me father died in Newcastle you see
interviewerByes
speakerand uh me mother got married again and then I went to Battleton S- +Station Station school there
interviewerBmhm
interviewerAmm
speakerdid all me school in there
interviewerAmhm
speakerand then ((my)) (( ))
interviewerAyour stepfather would be working at the pit was he
speakerpardon
interviewerAwas he working at the pit your stepfather did he work at the pit the man that your mother married did he work in the
speakeroh yes he worked in the pit
interviewerAah yeah
speakeryes he was a pitman
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speakerthey called 'im {NS}
interviewerAmhm
speakerbut I never went by {NS} he always went by ((her)) name
interviewerBmm
interviewerAmm
speakerthat was {NS}
interviewerAmm
speakerI was mother always fetched us ((up)) ((your)) name
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speakerand uh after I left school of course I went to the brickyard
interviewerBmm
speakeralong with other gals you know what I used to play with for some of them worked there an' and that's how I got there and I was never away
interviewerAyeah who was the schoolmaster when you were at the school Mrs {NS}
speakernay no you're (( )) I cannot the only is I cannae remember the schoolmaster's name I can M- +Miss remember our M- +Miss Miss our mistress {NS}
interviewerAyes
speakerI think was headmistress in the infants
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBmm
speakerI (('m)) forgettin' that {NS} was there
interviewerBoh
speakerin their school
interviewerAmm yeah
speakermaster and uh he lived in the schoolhouse
interviewerAof course that was that's r- +right
speaker{NS} that was his name
interviewerAhis name yeah
interviewerBwhat was he like you remember him much or
speakeruh {NS}
interviewerBmm
speakeroh was a smart fellow as far as I
interviewerByeah
interviewerAyoung ((lad))
speakerfellow can remember about him really
interviewerAyeah
interviewerByes
interviewerAcourse it was a colliery school
speakeraye just at the end there it's a library now
interviewerAaye it's a library now yes that was the colliery school and of course he would be employed by the uh
speakerit's a that's the school aye
interviewerAthe colliery
speakerah oh
interviewerAsee ((you see)) (( ))
speakerah that's the library it still stands there that was the school I went to
interviewerAyes ((still stand there)) yeah
interviewerBmm
interviewerAaye
speakerit's still there but it's that's what it is now a library
interviewerAand in those days uh did you s- +school did you pay school board money or was it finished with (( ))
speakeryes had to have our twopence every Monday morning to go to school
interviewerAhad you mhm ((it's))
speakerand we had our books to buy
interviewerAuh-huh
speakerthen when we went to school
interviewerAyeah ((and for)) there you would
speakerf- they were you know just got copybooks
interviewerAyeah
speakerwe had to pay for them
interviewerBpay for them all mm must have been difficult for some children wasn't it
speakeroh aye didn't have a good lot of money but things wasn't really dear like they are now you know
interviewerBno
interviewerAno
interviewerBno
speakers- couldn't people wouldn't couldn't lived and they hadn't very much to me mother married again you see
interviewerBmm
speakerand he worked at ((Barrington)) Pit the man she married
interviewerA((Barrington))
speakercalled 'im {NS}
interviewerAmhm
speakerand he uh worked at ((Barrington)) Pit
interviewerAmhm
speakerwhere he was just a shifter he didn't make very much money either
interviewerAmm yeah mm
speakerbut we lived on it
interviewerAyeah
speakerhad to
interviewerAyeah uhm
speakerand uh I had uh I was one two I had two brothers and a sister two sisters uh by me me mother had four on ((we))
interviewerAuh uh-huh
speakerwhen she married this
interviewerAwhen she married him
speakerfellow
interviewerAmhm
interviewerBmm
interviewerA((aye))
speakerI was the baby I was the youngest
interviewerAaye
interviewerByes
interviewerAwhere did you live then and uh Mrs {NS}
speakerwell we lived at the Bank Top
interviewerAdid you
speakerbut the houses is all pulled down
interviewerAaye
speakerand that's a collier- +colliery uh you know the like the council houses on
interviewerAaye
speakerthe Bank Top
interviewerAwhich uh which
speakeryou know where the Bank Top Hotel is
interviewerAyes aye
speakerin uh well we are all in council houses we were was the Tip used to be the Tip in them days
interviewerAyes aye
speaker'cause that's where we used to play
interviewerAyeah
speakerwhen we were kiddies and there was two stone halls and a wood row old houses well they are all pulled down now and that's it's a council estate
interviewerAyeah yes ah yes
speakerbut the last house we lived in still standing there and that's uh on the (( )) Terrace s- just from the Bank Top ((a deal))
interviewerAHoward Terrace
speakerHoward Terrace
interviewerAHoward Terrace yeah
speakerwe lived the third door from the bottom there
interviewerAoh yes that's
speakerthat's where uh
interviewerAyeah
speakermy mother died you know
interviewerAaye
interviewerBmm
speakerwhere I was married from we lived there
interviewerAthose woo- +wood
speakermoved into one of these houses when they built them you see
interviewerAuh those w- +wood those old wood houses and stone houses uh they were (( ))
speakerah they were pulled all down you see there was the Wood Row
interviewerA(( )) aye yeah and the Stone Row as they've called it
speakerand Stone Row and Back Stone Row
interviewerAand Back Stone Row tho- +those those were all uhm houses belonging to the old ironworks
speakerthey would be likely but uh
interviewerAaye aye they had been built for the (( )) and the main
speakerironworks wasn't in my day
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBmm
speakerthe ruins was still there mind
interviewerAwere they
interviewerBwere they
speakeroh the ruins was there 'cause we used to play among the tunnels
interviewerAoh yeah
interviewerBoh yes
speakerI can mind of playing in the ruins where the ironworks were
interviewerByes
interviewerAyeah
speakerand there was a big just about the size of this room and hadn't no top on
interviewerAmm
speakerjust the walls
interviewerAmhm
speakerI don't know what I think it was what they called the paper mill
interviewerAmhm oh I see aye
interviewerBoh
speakersomethin' 'bout that we used to play in there
interviewerAmhm
interviewerBmm
speaker'cause the shells was there you see off the wars
interviewerBoh ((con))
interviewerAmm
speakerbut uh and then down below was the ruins of the
interviewerAaye
speakerthe other places I can min- +mind o- +of mind of that
interviewerAyeah yes can you remember uh any of the other people that lived there at that time when you can you remember old Mrs {NS} for instance
speakeryes I can rem- +remember the {NS}
interviewerAyeah
speakerthey lived in the Wood Row
interviewerAmhm
speakerand they set it a fire
interviewerAthey did
speakerthe daughter set it on uh well she didn't deliberately set it on fire
interviewerBmm
speakerbut uh she had been to the dance {CG} I think in there her dress had *getten catched fire you see and she wasn't bold I (( )) but she set the place on fire
interviewerBmm
speakerand uh they built two houses in there there in brick and the rest was all wood I remember
interviewerAall wood yeah
interviewerBoh
speakerit look funny
interviewerAyes it ((were))
interviewerByeah
speakerand that was the two that was burned out you see
interviewerAyeah
speakerbut that's none of that there now
interviewerAmhm
speaker'cause they are all council houses on that s- +site site
interviewerAmm aye I remember I can just remember the old wood houses in the the uh
interviewerByes
speakeryes the Wood Row
interviewerA((the Stone Row)) and the Wood Row and the Stone Row (( )) wood
speakerand the Stone Row and Back Stone Row
interviewerAyeah The uh I don't know where they belonged to ((has Mr)) {NS} anything to do with them
speakerno I no my mother used to pay the rent of uh at ((Keldom)) Blackburn was it he lived at Choppington
interviewerAoh yes I knew him
speakerfrom the Choppington Bank
interviewerAyeah
speakerBlackburn
interviewerAI knew him yeah
speakerthat was where our landlord
interviewerAwas it really
speakerI think he wouldn't have
interviewerAyeah
speakerthem houses
interviewerAyeah yes there were the
speaker((they were)) at Blackburn
interviewerAthere were (( )) of the ironworks have pulled out of the uh
speakerwell I cannae mi- +mind I cannae mind o' the ironworks I can just remember the ruins
interviewerA((steel)) oh no
interviewerBmm
interviewerAyes yes
interviewerByes
speakerwe used to play in there
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speakerin the ruins you know when we w' kiddies
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
interviewerAyeah oh no they they they never worked ((for))
speakerin the ruins
interviewerAmany years before that yeah eighteen sixty-seven they had finished up
interviewerBa long time before too
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBhow old were you when you left school
speakerfourteen
interviewerBfourteen and you went straight into the brickyard
speakerwent straight to the brickyard I left school on Sa- +Saturday on Friday
interviewerByes
speakerand I was uh fourteen on the Saturday and I went I didn't know what what to do I thought should have gone to Wood's Factory there was Wood's factory (( )) factory
interviewerApulp factory
speakerpulp factories
interviewerBmm
speaker((instead of at)) the brickyard why they used to say the gals coming home from the pulp factory soaking wet
interviewerAyeah
speakeryou know
interviewerBmm
speakerI used to think oh I'm not going there now I didn't fancy that
interviewerBmm
speakerso on a Monday mornin' I went (( )) I see if I can get on to brickyard I'd nae more idea than fly
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speaker((to)) the brickyard but I went and uh I seed a gal's work and then they telled us ah there's the boss comin' around so I went I met up next to him for to get a job so he *axed us how old I was I says well I've just left school says I'm fourteen he says and do you think you could manage well I says I could try oh he says start at one o'clock says was on a Monday morning
interviewerAmm
speakerhe says oh come back and start at one
interviewerAhuh
interviewerBgo tell
speaker((that's)) tied on soon as I left school 'n I were I was happy in there ((most of)) mm well not all the time but it was really my home that and the {NS} was good to me if they wanted anything done at the house it was me
interviewerA{NS} was the the boss of the place he was the owner
speakerpardon
interviewerAwas the owners of the brickyard
speakeryes they were the owners I was a kid
interviewerAyeah
speakerhe was the boss he was the owner
interviewerAyes
speakerbut he had brothers he had a {NS} he used to go about seekin' orders gentleman {NS} we used to call him
interviewerAmm
speaker{NS} that's what we used to call 'im
interviewerA(( )) ((the washer))
speakerand uh what's the matter
interviewerAwasher the washer
speakeroh the washer
interviewerByes
speakerI should think it's a ((name)) so uh never mind the {NS} was good to me and I wasn't always at the brickyard
interviewerBmm
speakerif his mother was there at the old house at the house
interviewerBmm
speakerI did I always was at the house to do any work for them and I used to go every week and wash
interviewerAmm
speakerfor them and when uh the daugh- +daughter c- I mind the {NS}
interviewerBmm
speakerthe daughter the sister the boss's sister and his mother was an old woman you know he said about {NS} bein' bad 'n' could I go an' help the old woman ((well)) his mother ((well)) she was terrified I would take the scarlet fever
interviewerBmm yeah that's
speakeryou know that's
interviewerByeah
speakeryes that's what {NS} had
interviewerBmm
speakerI says I'm not takin' that I says I'll be alright brave as a lion
interviewerByes
speakerwell I didn't didn't take it (( ))
interviewerBmm
speakerI was always sorry for the old woman and uh carrying the meals up I used to say give them to me and I'll climb the stairs with that she wouldn't at first but I was sorry for her and I helped her trail the stairs
interviewerAmm
interviewerByeah
speaker((at)) finish she gave in I never took a fever never took (( )) I used to go every Tuesday and do the washing and I used to go on a Friday and clean clean rooms for her
interviewerAmm
speakerI can always mind of a
interviewerBmm
speakerwhen I oh there was a big ostrich egg in one of the cabinets when I was doing that would terrified and broke that ostrich egg {NS} had been in Africa you see {NS} that was the boss
interviewerAyeah
speakerthat was afore he came and took the brickyard he had been at Africa and he had fetched this t- ostrich home egg home you see
interviewerBmm yeah
speakerand uh he they thought a lot of me though {NS} an' I was
interviewerBmm
speakeralways there for to do the work
interviewerAmm
speakerand they could clean in times and I was just as much there as I was at the brickyard
interviewerAand ((what)) and what ((did))
speakerand I'd got the brickyard wage just to save money
interviewerAwhat what kind of wage had you for the work ((work))
interviewerBah so
speakerhuh you'll never guess threepence an hour
interviewerAmm threepence an hour
speakerthat was two and threepence a day it used to come twelve and sixpence a week
interviewerBand how long did you have to work for that what hours
speakerfrom half past six in the morning till five at night
interviewerBmm ((gosh))
speakerif we stopped at six o'clock which sometimes we did of the
interviewerBmm
speakerwere busy big orders come in for bricks
interviewerBmm
speakerused to ha' to work till six o'clock but that was all on threepence
interviewerAmm
speakeroh they had poor wages then
interviewerAmm
interviewerBand did you did you have a lunchtime break that sort of thing
speakeroh yes
interviewerByeah
speakerwe'd got a half an hour
interviewerBhalf an hour just
speakerstopped at eight o'clock till half past eight for our breakfast used to start half past six
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speakeryou know in the mornin'
interviewerByes
speakerand then we had an hour at dinner time from twelve to one
interviewerBmm
speakersometimes we used to work to six o'clock we didn't get any break for that
interviewerAmhm
speakerjust worked through to six
interviewerA(( ))
interviewerBand did you work on Saturdays as well or d- +did
interviewerA((you worked))
speakerhalf day on a Saturday
interviewerBhalf day on Saturday
speakersometimes we worked to four o'clock if uh
interviewerBif you were busy
speakerif we was busy
interviewerAyes
speakerif we had uh t- wanted bricks
interviewerAwhat uh what was your job uh what what kind of job was it that you that you had to do
speakerwell I set the bricks that was my job
interviewerAyou were a brick-setter is that right
speakerbut when I first went I had to wheel the barrows wheel the bricks to the s- ones that set them off you see
interviewerAmm
speakerbut uh 'cause there was a two gals for wheeling the barrows there was two to cutter you see the machine what cut the bricks just to come ((out)) today
interviewerAmm
speakerand they cut the length one was at this side cut the length shove it down to the cutter another girl turned the handle over hold the wires and
interviewerAmm
speakercut the bricks
interviewerBmm
interviewerAmm
speakerand then they had to lift them onto the barrows well there was four boards on a barrow used to be heavy you know
interviewerAmm
speakerwet clay and uh when I first went I used to wheel the barrows and then the I got on if there was a one of the setters off ((to)) set just help them out setting well I got the job settin' I was head setter
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speaker'cause you see sometimes say this is the shape and this was the width of the shape where you would come half down that shape you see you'd to time that straight across
interviewerBmm
speakerjust for it half down and then go back fill other half in you see we you you had to keep the straight line down there
interviewerAmm
speakerso I was at the top I was the one to keep the straight line
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
interviewerAsettin' the settin' the bricks ((you was)) settin' this the clay bricks the soft clay under the
speakerit was soft clay yes and you had to be very careful
interviewerAaye (( )) were drying yeah
speakeror you had the hot flats
interviewerAyou had a hot a hot floor
speakeraye it was hot with steam underneath
interviewerAfor the the for the yes
speakeriron uh oh as thick as that iron plates
interviewerAiron plates yeah you lai- +laid you set them on there to dry them
interviewerBmm
speaker((hot)) (( )) aye you sit set them on there to dry
interviewerAbefore they went to the kiln yeah
speakerand then there was men at the kiln used to
interviewerAyeah and did they wheel them out and then wheel them to the kiln
speakeraye the kiln men used to come and wheel them out into the kilns you see the ((up)) dried ones
interviewerAmm mm
speakerand we used to set the wet ones
interviewerAmm how long did it take 'em to dry the bricks after this they were set ((how long did it)) take them
speakeroh I can't tell you that really I can't tell you just to know what kiln would be your
interviewerAmm
speakerI couldn't tell you that bit
interviewerAtwo or three days
speakeroh could be about that
interviewerAyeah and then they dry them and put them into the kilns to be burned (( ))
speakerthey had to dry in the sheds you see and then the men used to wheel them out into the kiln
interviewerAmm yeah
speakerand they used to seal seal the kilns up
interviewerAyeah
speakeryou know there there were ((all)) kilns in
interviewerAuh-huh
speakerjust little like things but {NS} did away with them {NS} and he built one ((kiln)) it be continuous kiln
interviewerAyes
speakerthe heat left warm as soon as they were ready and went to the next compartment if there was always bricks ready you see
interviewerAyeah
speakerdid away with the old and I was t-
interviewerAyeah
speakerno fire
interviewerAyeah
speakerthe ol' kilns they had to fi- +fire uh shove in
interviewerAyeah
speakeryou could see the glare at night from the holes
interviewerAyeah yeah
speakerwhere the men firing but these ones the new kiln they filled they fed them from the top
interviewerAtop aye mm (( ))
speakerbut I no was never up on the top like but that's where they f- +fired
interviewerAyeah yeah (( ))
speakerthey fired it from the top
interviewerAuhm
speakerso they'll be still there yet likely
interviewerAyes
speakercan still be there I don't know what there's in at all
interviewerAyes they're still there yet uh still there yet mm
speakerof ((the f-))
interviewerAof course ((they)) (( ))
speakermachinery there
interviewerA(( )) ((often kiln don't know)) uhm and what kind of wages had the men that worked in there
speakerme I can't tell you for them
interviewerAwere they on piece work
speakerthe kiln men
interviewerAaye
speakerwas on piece work
interviewerAmm
speakerthat's all I know but what the wages they got I couldn't tell you
interviewerAmm
interviewerBwere were there many men were there more men than women working there or more women or
speakeroh I don't -- I used to wouldn't be more men than women there used to be six women
interviewerByeah six women mm
speakerand huh well there would be a few more there used would be four kiln men anyway an'
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speaker((one would)) (( )) with the barrows and loading the fillin' the kilns up
interviewerAand ((there were kiln men))
speakerwith the dried bricks you see
interviewerAthe dried bricks mm
interviewerBmm
speakerand then there'd be four on the clay hole
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speakerand well when I first went we used to dig the clay
interviewerAmhm
speakerin in the clay hole with a used to have a foot iron
interviewerAmhm
speakeryou know iron used to fit on a foot and ((lase)) up the front to save the feet you see
interviewerByes
speakeron the spade now it was when I first went know {NS} got an excavator after that
interviewerAmhm
speakerproper digger
interviewerAmhm
speakerused to dig the clay you know they put my man on that and uh 'cause he my man worked the machinery in the what made the bricks
interviewerAoh I see
interviewerBah
speakeryou see he used to fire the *boilecs
interviewerAmm
speakertwo boilers to keep the steam up to run that machine
interviewerAmhm
speakeran' that's what my man did you see well when they got this excavator down the clay hole they put him on it put my man on it and uh he was on there the rest of the time
interviewerAwith steam uh that a big steam shovel wasn't it
speakerso pardon
interviewerAwas like a big steam shovel
speakeroh aye
interviewerA(( ))
speakeryes used to swoop
interviewerBmm
interviewerAyes yes (( ))
speakerand it just tipped into the buggies you see
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm it would be much quicker wouldn't it when the men digging
speakeroh better the men
interviewerByeah
speakerwhen they had the four men diggin'
interviewerBmm
speakeryou know and they used to have their foot-irons on it was all
interviewerAyeah
speakerfeet work
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBmm
speakerand then they used to ((had to)) shove it down into the buggies
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBmm
speakerand then they pulled the buggies along you see with a pony
interviewerAuh-huh
speakerhad a pony but after they got the excavator ((uh well yeah)) I think the ponies the ponies still pulled it to the bottom of the
interviewerAaye (( ))
speakerthe bank
interviewerAyes
speakerand they had to come away took the bank to the middle top
interviewerBmm
interviewerAmm
speakernearly the height of this house right up the bank
interviewerA((coming up)) (( )) clay (( ))
speakerthey pulled it up by uh
interviewerAand ((up)) and ((up to the)) top of the mill
speakerelectricity you see
interviewerBmm
interviewerAyeah yeah yeah
speakeraye
interviewerAuhm
speakerts-
interviewerAthe {NS} were were the ((Field)) Brothers uhm partners in that was that in that business ((Field)) Brothers ((of them)) partners in that business i' {NS} or was it just the one had it the brickyard
speakerone lavatory
interviewerAwhat no {NS}
speakeroh {NS} oh there was uh 'bout three b- +brothers four brothers on them
interviewerAwas there
speakerbut there was only two had to do with the business
interviewerAmm
speakerthat was {NS}
interviewerAmm
speakernow he was our boss we called him the boss and there was {NS} we used to call him {NS} he was the gentleman he used to seek orders
interviewerAyeah oh I see
speakercouldn't do any work to seek the orders in you see
interviewerAmm (( )) aye
speakertravelling
interviewerAyeah
speakerbut {NS} was always knocking about
interviewerAyes aye (( ))
speakerso {NS} was our boss
interviewerAmm
interviewerBmm
speakerthen there was ol' {NS}
interviewerAmhm
speakerwell he didn't do much he just looked after the horses and the stable as they had uh that horse and carts you know they used to had to
interviewerAmm
speakerload an' fetch the coals in from the colliery
interviewerAoh yes
speakeryou see with the horse and cart to feed the boiler
interviewerAmhm mm
speakersh- feed the boilers keep the boilers going
interviewerA(( )) for the kilns as well and to burn the bricks as well
speakermm
interviewerAand to burn the bricks as well oh they burned them
speakeryes that they ((burn)) (( )) for that you know they used to have a
interviewerAyes and they were burning the coals for that as well yeah
speakerday shift men and night shift men for that
interviewerAyeah yeah yeah
speakerbut when he built the big kiln you see
interviewerAmm
speakerit was easier
interviewerAmm
speaker'cause uh it held more bricks and made more bricks
interviewerAmm
speakerand then it was easier for the men as well
interviewerAyeah the the uhm the men that were actually the brick burners uhm th- +they they would have to start from uh the uh s- +sort sort of served a time to that wouldn't they brick burning they would start as lads in the brickyard and then they worked their way up as brick burners after that didn't they
speakeroh I should think so oh one would learn the other
interviewerAyes ((yeah)) yeah was a ((skill job))
speakeras far as I understand aye
interviewerAnow that was a ((skill job)) on the bricks mm
speakeryes
interviewerAyeah
interviewerB'd how long did you work in the brickyard
speakerI worked there till I was married
interviewerBah
speakerwell not exactly I did leave I was left twice I was at ((Solverson)) Newcastle ((Wescot)) Road
interviewerBmm
speakeruh at a dentist's I was up there and then uh I was left after that stopped at home a bit but I always worked ((was all)) back to the brickyard somehow
interviewerBmm you preferred it to the other jobs did you
speakeraye I liked it
interviewerByes
speakerI think it was with being among the other girls you see
interviewerByes
interviewerAmm
interviewerBpeople to talk to and so on
speakermm there was six on we you know two setters two at the barrows and two at the machine
interviewerAyeah had your husband very big wages had a little bit extra for work on that excavator had he
speakeroh he uh he had a good wage my man couldn't grumble about his wage
interviewerAmm mm mm because it it was a bit better than working at the pits 'cause the pits used to work badly at times and
speakerhe worked at Ashington Pit
interviewerAdid he
speakerhe was working at Ashington Pit when he retired
interviewerAmhm
interviewerBhow did you like being in service what was that like with the dentist
speakeroh I didn't like it at all
interviewerBdidn't like it
speakerhuh
interviewerBwas it the people or just the work you didn't like
speakeroh the people was alright
interviewerByeah
speakerbut uh ye your own boss when you're at the brickyard ((so I could be))
interviewerBah {LG}
interviewerAmm
speakeryou know
interviewerByes what did you have to do for the dentist
speakeroh just housework
interviewerBuh-huh
speakernothing to do with the dentist
interviewerByou didn't have to cook no
speakerpardon
interviewerByeah did you have to cook or anything or were you
speakeroh no
interviewerBmm
speakerjust uh the daughter used to see to the cookin'
interviewerBoh yes
speakerand I still had only white caps on you know white aprons for the
interviewerBdid you
speakerget the house and them would come s- +see to seek the dentist you see I used to had to answer the door
interviewerByeah
speakerand I had to be ((go see)) him ((on at)) the top
interviewerByeah
speakerwhen the bell rung that was off
interviewerBmhm
speakerused to have a posh ((do)) at the front door {LG} I show 'em into the room now I'd still didn't like it you know
interviewerBno
speakerno you still hadn't your own freedom like
interviewerAyeah
speakerwhen you're at home and workin' at the brickyard you see
interviewerBno mm
speakerwell you have finished you please yourself what you did
interviewerAyeah
interviewerByeah
interviewerAwhen you wo- +worked
speakerwhen you're in service aye you just got your night out
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBmm mm
interviewerAw- +when when you were at the brickyard you y- +you did you wear clogs or did you wear heavy boots or
speakerthey had clogs
interviewerAhad they
speakerbut you had to have strong boots I can always mind
interviewerAyeah
speakerwhen I started I had to went with a pair of thin shoes on and the gals had clogs then and overall strong shoes so I can mind when I first started the engine that was my husband he used to drive the engine he came along ((around)) breakfast one mornin' I think it was the second mornin' I was there he come like big soft lad he had somethin' behind his back he's puts 'em down in front of me he says see if they may fit you I can still mind of it why the scoff he got poor soul all the other lasses were sayin' oh us never did that for us never fetched any for us
interviewerBoh they were jealous
speakeryes he should just ((hard it)) poor soul he got some stick about that you see
interviewerBmm
speakerput the clogs down for us you see is there any more he fetched my friend went to the office and so p- he says there isn't another pair he says that's the only pair there is and *perhap they fit us so I got the clogs
interviewerBmm
speakerbut uh I didn't wear them long I didn't like the clogs
interviewerBmm
interviewerAyeah
speaker((used to have)) good stout shoes on mind because of you see the flats was hot
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBmm
interviewerA(( ))
speaker'cause sometimes they were extra hot
interviewerAyeah
speakerif they were makin' bricks
interviewerAyeah
speakerand uh
interviewerA((very hot))
speakeryou used to burn your feet if you hadn't a good pair of shoes on you know
interviewerBmm
speaker'cause you see they had to be hot
interviewerA(( ))
speakerdry the bricks
interviewerBto dry the bricks yes
interviewerAclogs would be ideal for the job because ((they))
speakeryes that was the idea
interviewerA'cause they had a they had a thick wood sole
speakerclogs
interviewerAclogs would be s- ideal for that job
speakeryou get used with them you see
interviewerA(( )) yes and you'd have to have a course apron on
speakeroh yeah they have a course apron 'cause you left that took it off 'cause it used to get oily ((you)) from there and it was smelly oil
interviewerAyeah
speakergas oil they called it
interviewerBmm
interviewerA((it was)) gas oil yes
speakergas oil tha- +that that's what gave you the smell of the brickyard
interviewerBmm
speakerthe gas oil but we had a course apron you see used to put it on ((you know))
interviewerAmhm
speakerwe left it at the brickyard just took it home the weekends to get washed
interviewerAdid you have to provide your own you had to provide your own uh
speakeroh yes
interviewerAmm
speakerprovide our own
interviewerAmm with your threepence an hour
speakerthreepence and hour two and threepence a day we worked for like steam coals
interviewerAstill at this ((yeah))
speakeraye we had a lot of work to do
interviewerAmhm hard work as well
speakeryes hard work
interviewerBmm
interviewerAyes
speakerbecause uh you had there was a (( )) you had to have well I didn't wheel the barrows very long
interviewerBmm
speakerwell the four was going to quit on the barrows to wheel them to the setters you see
interviewerBmm
speakerbut I never got to even to the cutter 'cause I was put on the setters straight away
interviewerBmm
speakerwas two gals at this (( )) you see settin' and then two gals wheelin' the barrows to them and then two to cut at one each end the bricks that's how we worked
interviewerAmm
speakerbut I was always mostly at the settin'
interviewerByes what jobs did your brothers and sisters do
speakerjobs
interviewerByes were were they in did they go into the brickyard at all or were they doing other things your brothers and sisters
speakeroh I liked the brickyard the best we had more freedom you see
interviewerByeah mhm
interviewerAuh did your brothers and sisters work at the brickyard had anybody else
speakerno
interviewerAjust yourself
interviewerBwhere did they work
speakerme sisters
interviewerBmm
speakercan't mind of them working them were married weren't they
interviewerBoh I see {LG}
speakeryes I was the youngest
interviewerByes
speakeryou know
interviewerBand how about your brothers were they down the pit or
speakeruh no me brother went to the
interviewerBno
speakerhe yes he did work at the old pit a bit
interviewerBmm
speakerbut eh he was mostly at sea he used to like to go to sea
interviewerBoh mm
speakerhe used to go away on a merchant boats
interviewerBmm
speakerto sea and then me youngest brother he was at the pit youngest one I'm the only one left nobody there but me
interviewerAnow anybody who was left a widow in those days like your mother was did they have a hard job bring your family up
speakeroh aye well I I married uh my man he was he wasn't hard up you know he was off a good family you know good saver he wasn't he never drank a lot anything like that wouldn't spend a penny if a halfpenny would do was one of them sort
interviewerAmhm
interviewerBmm mm
speakerand we never wanted for anything he well fe- +fetched uh fetched my family up alright
interviewerAmm but your mother your mother would have a hard job left with you
speakermy mother had a hard life of yes my mother had a hard life
interviewerA(( )) job ((on)) (( )) yeah
speakerbut uh we bought our own house in Bridge Terrace
interviewerAyes you did
speaker((house)) but them uh that other mansions was a brother were two brothers they fell out at stone to Bridge Terrace lived at Choppington
interviewerAmhm
speakerwhen we bought that house in Bridge Terrace
interviewerAmhm
speaker(( )) and (( )) ((Jim)) (( )) they were two brothers
interviewerAmm yeah
speakerand there were new houses there and {NS} just built them
interviewerAyeah
speakerif anybody if you wanted a house he built it but he built two
interviewerAmm
speakerhe always built two
interviewerAyes
speakeryou see the one was ordered and then the other one was for sale
interviewerAmhm
speakerand I can mind uh how we got to Bridge Terrace lived at Choppington all the time when we left to get married 'cause we lived in his mother's property in Holme's Buildings still be there likely and there oh dear me it was just two rooms and then I was havin' a family and we shifted
interviewerBmhm
speakerinto his brother's property Sunnyside House just as you go along to the schools there's a house stands there
interviewerAyeah
speakerdid you know {NS} at Choppington the butcher
interviewerAyes aye
speakeraye we live next door to them
interviewerAstore butcher
speakeraye and uh they have all gone now I think snack it just push it you hear the washer can you you haven't snacked (( )) and uh where was I up to oh aye you looked when we come to Choppington Station uh Battleton Station we lived up there
interviewerBmhm
speaker'side the schools just as you go round the schools Choppington so uh oh I was tired of Choppington 'cause there was a (( )) house frightened with the black clogs they all had black clogs at the house
interviewerBmm
speakeryou know
interviewerBmm
speakerand uh I says oh dear me I says can we not get out can you not be at buzz that was the brickyard boss
interviewerByes
speakerand he built all them houses along there you know
interviewerAyeah
speakerand he never offered any to t- +to to my man or {NS} that was the {NS} what you would
interviewerAmm
speakerand them was the two what needed them
interviewerAmm
speakerbut he thought well the {NS} had property at Choppington you see
interviewerAmm
speakerand they would they had had the idea that they wouldn't want to come away from there that's why {NS} never offered ((were)) a house you see because buzz built all them villa things on (( )) to Bridge Terrace I (( ))
interviewerAyeah mm yeah
speakerwell buzz built them uh ones what's built with two houses down there
interviewerA((I feel)) that's how ((he set them))
speakerand {NS} built uh Bridge Terrace
interviewerATerrace yeah
speakerwell anyway we went to thirty Bridge Terrace and then when we decided to have it {NS} thought he would uh axe buzz that was the boss's brother
interviewerAmm
speakerto have a look at it to see if it was worth the money they were axing for it so uh both {NS} says well didn't think you wanted to come to live to Battleton Station why didn't you tell ((we))
interviewerAmhm
speaker'cause we knew it buzz was lettin' houses you know was buzz had them ((them)) villas
interviewerAmm
speakerbut no half that wanted {NS}
interviewerBmm
interviewerAmm
speakerso never mind we were just down there 'bout a year when buzz decided he would buy one there so if {NS} bought got an order for one he built two you see
interviewerAmm
speakerso uh buzz ordered a one after we shifted down there
interviewerAmm
speakerthat's them who was at forty-six
interviewerAyeah
speakerand uh that's how we got a house at Battleton Station mind
interviewerAyeah
speakerwe had been there ever since
interviewerBah
speakerlike down there
interviewerBmm
speakerit was nice
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBmm
speakerof course the that factory wasn't there then you know
interviewerAmm
speakerthere wasn't any factory there
interviewerAno there wasn't any more then mhm
speakerit was all green fields when we went there
interviewerAyeah
speakerit's not so good down there now
interviewerAmm
speakerit's a lot of traffic buzz
interviewerAis a Geordie name for {NS}
interviewerBoh is it
interviewerAyes it's another way of saying {NS} {NS} is a Geordie name
speakeraye are you puttin' everything on there
interviewerBmm
speakerwhat I'm sayin'
interviewerByes yes
speakerhee bad luck am I not talking polite
interviewerByes you are good heavens
interviewerA((very))
speaker((very)) you've uh
interviewerAwhat about the uhm uh the brickyard they'd employ quite a lot of men then down there like you know they found quite a lot of employment for men that brickyard there uhm were there were there when the {NS} finished with it were you there when {NS} finished with it
speakeruhm no I think I was left afore that
interviewerAmm
speaker'fore {NS}
interviewerAmm
speakerfinished with it
interviewerBwhy did he finish with it was it not paying or
interviewerAI think he retired from it
interviewerBoh did he
speakerhe retired on gettin' old you know
interviewerAyes yes
interviewerBoh I see
interviewerAyeah
speakerI couldn't tell you why they finished with it
interviewerBdid they have no children who would carry on with it or
speaker{NS} wasn't married ((when he retired))
interviewerBdidn't mm oh he wasn't married oh
speaker{NS} he was never oh yes he did
interviewerBno
speakeryes he was he was married to {NS} she was a school teacher
interviewerAmm yes
speakershe lived in (( )) there
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBmm
speakerthat's who buzz married late in life like
interviewerBoh did he yes
interviewerAyeah
speakerno family
interviewerBno
interviewerAhe used to an older lady used to go about with two little dogs wa- +was was she related to them was she {NS}
speakerthat was uh ah that was Mrs {NS} sister {NS}
interviewerAwas it
speakerand uh she uh {NS}
interviewerAmm
speakercalled that one with the one with the dogs {NS}
interviewerAmm aye
speakeran' {NS} was a school teacher you know what
interviewerAyeah
speaker{NS} married {NS} married she was a school teacher
interviewerAyeah yes
speakerChoppington School
interviewerAmm
speakerI used to go and wash for her ((and all))
interviewerBmm
speakeron washing days I went washed for her
interviewerAyou do the family wash
speakermm
interviewerAyou get about two and (( ))
speakeronce a week I just got me wage at the brickyard just the same
interviewerAyou did mm very nice
speakerbut {NS} 's uh mother was a canny old sort every night when {NS} was bad once she had the some sort of fever uh was scarlet fever it wasn't very severe you know scarlet fever wasn't no oh and I used to be his mother was old you know (( )) I used to be sorry for her ((between)) the stairs I used to say let me take that up (( )) but of course I f- +frightened frightened I would get it you see so d- I was determined I wouldn't take it so I got the job and I took it up I never took the fever
interviewerBmm
speakerI never took it and saved two legs she was canny and I used to get sixpence every night off her for to come to pictures
interviewerBoh
speakerand I and I wasn't at the brickyard I was stoppin' there
interviewerBshe must have been nice
interviewerAyeah the uh
speakeraye they were good to me the {NS}
interviewerAcause there was a lot of plagues and epidemics in those days though and you know yeah yeah
speakeroh yes
interviewerAscarlet fever and there was m- +measles meas-+measles measles and
speakeruh ah yes aye you never get any of them now do you
interviewerAuh diphthe- +diphtheria no and diphtheria and uh these they put the boards out outside the houses
speakermhm aye and I ((never)) had scarlet fever should
interviewerAwith a big D on for diphtheria and a S for a big great big S on a house and you had to hang these outside the doors
interviewerByou sure really
interviewerAyes
speakeraye
interviewerAepidemic and that meant that you hadn't to go in no way to go in there but the doctor
interviewerBmm
speakeraye
interviewerAbut uhm there was always a lot of epidemics in the yeah
speakerand the boss uh he was
interviewerA((fever))
speakera lot o' years in Africa I think
interviewerBmm
speaker'cause I can always mind when I was doin' the room
interviewerBmm
speakerthey had a big there was a big ostrich egg and the old woman was always frightened I would drop that egg when I was dustin'
interviewerAyeah
speakerbecause it {LG} it was {NS} from Africa
interviewerAmm
speakerand I always mind of that
interviewerBhow was the brickyard affected in the war did all the did all men have to go off to the war in the First World War
speakeryes if uh if they were at age
interviewerBmhm did your husband have to go
speakerno
interviewerBm
speakerbut he didn't pass
interviewerBoh I see you were lucky weren't you
speakerhe had to go through his exams just the same but he didn't pass
interviewerBmm
interviewerAmedical medical exam yeah
interviewerBmm yes
speakerno he didn't pass
interviewerAyeah
interviewerBah
interviewerAand of course during the last war there was an aeroplane dropped on it on the brickyard a German plane
speakerb- aye yes we were living in Bridge Terrace then
interviewerAyes dropped on the uh brickyard right in plonked in the middle of the drying sheds
interviewerBmm it did
interviewerAyeah
speakereh
interviewerBthat was before it closed
interviewerAyes
interviewerB(( ))
interviewerAduring the last war
speakeryes I can mind that night
interviewerBmm
speakerby the sheds you know the steel floors
interviewerAyeah
speakerwas as thick as that table
interviewerAyeah
speakersteel
interviewerBmm
interviewerAyeah
speakerand it was always red hot and that (( )) being thick on that but the aeroplane went right through that flew
interviewerAflow right
speakernearly uh ((with the way they turned)) was yards and yards under the earth
interviewerBmm
interviewerAyes
speakerthrough that steel them steel plates
interviewerAyeah
speakerhad a job gettin' their men out
interviewerAand then there was ((all about)) four Germans here wasn't there
speakeryeah I can mind tha'

End of interview.